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God's Throne

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Preface


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Hereafter What?


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Open Door


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God's Throne


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How Jesus Is Dressed


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A Book In
The Right Hand


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The Sealed Book


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Worthy is the Lamb


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God Vindicated








In the temple in heaven, the dwelling place of God, His throne is established in righteousness and judgment. In the most holy place is His law, the great rule of right by which all mankind are tested. The ark that enshrines the tables of the law is covered with the mercy seat, before which Christ pleads His blood in the sinner's behalf. Thus is represented the union of justice and mercy in the plan of human redemption. This union infinite wisdom alone could devise and infinite power accomplish; it is a union that fills all heaven with wonder and adoration. The cherubim of the earthly sanctuary, looking reverently down upon the mercy seat, represent the interest with which the heavenly host contemplate the work of redemption. This is the mystery of mercy into which angels desire to look that God can be just while He justifies the repenting sinner and renews His intercourse with the fallen race; that Christ could stoop to raise unnumbered multitudes from the abyss of ruin and clothe them with the spotless garments of His own righteousness to unite with angels who have never fallen and to dwell forever in the presence of God.


Rev 4­:2 "And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.


Again this sounds much like what is happening in Daniel 7:9.



Rev 4­:3 "And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone: and there was a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald."



Rev 4­:4 "And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold."
Rev 5:­8 "And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints."
Rev 5:­9 "And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;"


Some say the 24 elders and 4 living creatures are humans, some say these are angels.
My belief is that the 24 elders are human and the 4 living creatures are angels.
Clearly some of these are redeemed, but like Ellen White says the angels join in.


Holy angels will join in the song of the redeemed. Though they cannot sing from experimental knowledge, "He hath washed us in His own blood, and redeemed us unto God," yet they understand the great peril from which the people of God have been saved. Were they not sent to lift up for them a standard against the enemy? They can fully sympathize with the glowing ecstasy of those who have overcome by the blood of the Lamb and the word of their testimony (Letter 79, 1900). {7BC 922.8}


Rev 4­:5 "And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God."


We have already dealt with the scene and where Jesus is at.
Jesus is standing amongst the candlesticks and is seen through the open door by his Father.
The open door shows us Jesus is moving from one apartment to the next.


Rev 4­:6 "And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, were four beasts full of eyes before and behind."


I never looked at the sea of glass until now, it looks like a large flat surface where a large amount of beings can gather.


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We all entered the cloud together, and were seven days ascending to the sea of glass, when Jesus brought the crowns, and with His own right hand placed them on our heads. He gave us harps of gold and palms of victory. Here on the sea of glass the 144,000 stood in a perfect square. Some of them had very bright crowns, others not so bright. Some crowns appeared heavy with stars, while others had but few. All were perfectly satisfied with their crowns. And they were all clothed with a glorious white mantle from their shoulders to their feet. Angels were all about us as we marched over the sea of glass to the gate of the city. Jesus raised His mighty, glorious arm, laid hold of the pearly gate, swung it back on its glittering hinges, and said to us, "You have washed your robes in My blood, stood stiffly for My truth, enter in." We all marched in and felt that we had a perfect right in the city. {EW 16.2}


Rev 4­:7 "And the first beast was like a lion, and the second beast like a calf, and the third beast had a face as a man, and the fourth beast was like a flying eagle."



Rev 4­:8 "And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come."
Rev 4­:9 "And when those beasts give glory and honour and thanks to him that sat on the throne, who liveth for ever and ever,"
Rev 4­:10 "The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying,"
Rev 4­:11 "Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created."


This of course makes me think of whose throne this is.
I don't know how Trinitarians get around this chapter and the next when you see God on the throne being worshiped first and later see Jesus taking the book out of God's hands.
Here is one way they thy to make sense of their Trinity.



I'm sorry this is God's throne (the father's).
John, Daniel, Isaiah, Ezekiel, and Stephen all had visions of God's throne and the one who sat on the throne was the Father.
The Father throne is the greatest.
If Jesus did not overcome would he be there with his Father?


Rev 3:­21 "To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne."


Could Jesus have failed?


Satan in heaven had hated Christ for His position in the courts of God. He hated Him the more when he himself was dethroned. He hated Him who pledged Himself to redeem a race of sinners. Yet into the world where Satan claimed dominion God permitted His Son to come, a helpless babe, subject to the weakness of humanity. He permitted Him to meet life's peril in common with every human soul, to fight the battle as every child of humanity must fight it, at the risk of failure and eternal loss. {DA 49.1}


I don't see how you can make a trinity out of this.
Clearly they are showing who God is, who sits on the throne and who is over all other beings including his Son.
We will see Jesus worshiped in the next chapter but clearly the Father's throne.
Clearly the Father is above all.